Legislature(2013 - 2014)CAPITOL 106

03/28/2013 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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+ SJR 10 ARCTIC: POLICY, USCG, ARCTIC COUNCIL TELECONFERENCED
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          SJR 10-ARCTIC: POLICY, USCG, ARCTIC COUNCIL                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:09:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN announced that the first  order of business was the CS                                                               
FOR  SENATE JOINT  RESOLUTION  NO. 10(RES)  am,  Relating to  the                                                               
presence  and  interests of  the  state  and  the nation  in  the                                                               
Arctic; urging  appointment of a  representative of the  state to                                                               
the  Arctic Council;  relating to  icebreakers;  and relating  to                                                               
United  States  Coast  Guard operations  and  facilities  in  the                                                               
Arctic.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:10:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT   moved  to  adopt  the   proposed  House                                                               
committee  substitute (HCS)  for CSSJR  10, Version  28-LS0542/C,                                                               
Nauman, 3/22/13, as a work draft.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:11:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE  BYRNES,   Intern,  Senator   Cathy  Giessel,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  presented  SJR 10  on  behalf  of Senator  Giessel,                                                               
sponsor.  He  stated that SJR 10 would urge  Congress and advises                                                               
the  U.S. to  increase  its  interest in  the  Arctic Council  by                                                               
expanding the U.S.  Coast Guard icebreaker fleet  to maintain its                                                               
growing  Arctic responsibilities.    The  joint resolution  would                                                               
advise   the   U.S.   to   assert   its   political,   strategic,                                                               
environmental, and  economic interests in the  Arctic by pursuing                                                               
America's  vast diplomatic,  military,  and economic  means.   He                                                               
said that  interest in the  Arctic has been renewed  globally due                                                               
to the  diminishing levels of  Polar Sea ice, which  presents new                                                               
opportunities to the  world.  Geologists believe  that the Arctic                                                               
holds  the potential  for large  quantities of  natural resources                                                               
that  could   promote  domestic  energy  security   and  Alaska's                                                               
economy.   The decline  in amount  of Polar  Sea ice  can enhance                                                               
commercial interests with an  opportunity to reduce international                                                               
shipping times compared to conventional  routes by navigating the                                                               
Arctic Ocean.  Though the rest  of the world appears to recognize                                                               
the  potential   of  the  Arctic,   there  has   been  relatively                                                               
inadequate resolve  exhibited at  the federal level  in advancing                                                               
Arctic interests.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:12:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BYRNES  referred  to  a  handout  in  the  committee  packet                                                               
entitled, "Major  Icebreakers of the World,"  which was published                                                               
by the  U.S. Coast Guard  and reveals the number  of icebreakers,                                                               
which  indicates how  other  countries  have demonstrated  Arctic                                                               
interests.  Icebreakers are essential  to carrying out operations                                                               
in  the Arctic  and projecting  a nation's  presence in  northern                                                               
waters.    He  pointed  out that  Russia  has  17  state-operated                                                               
icebreakers, Canada  has 6, and the  U.S. has 3, of  which only 1                                                               
is currently  in service.   He  said that  U.S. interests  are at                                                               
stake  in  the  Arctic,  particularly of  interest  to  Alaskans.                                                               
International Arctic  policy affects Alaska uniquely  compared to                                                               
other states.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BYRNES  said SJR 10  highlights Alaska's engagement  with the                                                               
Arctic  Council,  which  since  1996 has  emerged  as  a  leading                                                               
channel for the discussion of  international Arctic affairs among                                                               
the  Arctic states.    The relayed  [the  sponsor's] belief  that                                                               
Alaska's  Arctic  interests  are fundamentally  America's  Arctic                                                               
interests, and whatever avenue that  is available to convey those                                                               
interests should be pursued.  The  U.S. should seek to unlock the                                                               
Arctic's potential by  having the U.S. take a  leadership role in                                                               
guiding  international Arctic  policy.   He stated  that adopting                                                               
the provisions of SJR 10 would  be a good first step in advancing                                                               
that goal.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:14:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN asked whether this  resolution has anything to do with                                                               
the Law of the Sea Treaty.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRYNES answered that SJR  10 does not specifically promote or                                                               
oppose the Law of the Sea Treaty.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:14:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT asked  why  Argentina,  Chile, and  South                                                               
Africa have ice breakers.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRYNES answered that those  countries are near the Antarctic.                                                               
In   response  to   Representative  Isaacson,   he  offered   his                                                               
understanding  that  the  key  on  the  handout  indicates  where                                                               
icebreakers have operated.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN remarked  that  it is  amazing  how many  icebreakers                                                               
Russia has.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:16:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   HUGHES  noted   that  Russia   started  building                                                               
icebreakers  in the  '60s and  the U.S.  got a  late start.   She                                                               
wondered  if   Alaska  encouraged   the  U.S.  with   respect  to                                                               
icebreakers.    She  expressed curiosity  about  the  history  of                                                               
icebreakers.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:16:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BRYNES offered  his understanding  that Alaska's  delegation                                                               
has been  fighting for more icebreakers  for a long time,  but it                                                               
has  only been  recently, due  to global  warming and  Arctic ice                                                               
melting, that the interest has shifted to the Arctic.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:17:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CATHY GIESSEL, Alaska  State Legislature, Juneau, Alaska,                                                               
as sponsor of SJR 10, interjected  that Alaska was a new state in                                                               
the '60s,  and the country  is just now  realizing that it  is an                                                               
Arctic  nation.   She  said,  "We  are  attempting to  raise  the                                                               
urgency of  the need for icebreakers."   She said as  a result of                                                               
diminishing  Arctic ice,  shipping  lanes have  opened  up.   She                                                               
commented that  the Bering  Strait has  become a  popular conduit                                                               
for significant  shipping between  Asia, the Arctic,  and Russia;                                                               
therefore,  the U.S.  needs additional  icebreakers for  national                                                               
security.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:18:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HUGHES  asked  for  the cost  of  an  icebreaker,                                                               
whether any private companies build  them, and if the state could                                                               
consider building one.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRYNES  answered that that the  cost issue was raised  in the                                                               
Senate Resources  Committee meeting  on 3/4/13.   According  to a                                                               
High Latitude  Study provided to  the Congress in July  2011, and                                                               
reported  in a  Congressional Research  Service report,  the cost                                                               
for  one ship  would  be about  $856 million.    The report  also                                                               
estimated that  building six ships  would cost $4.7 billion.   He                                                               
noted that  major ice breakers,  the Nathaniel B. Palmer  and the                                                               
Aiviq, are privately owned.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL added  that the  Aiviq is  owned by  Royal Dutch                                                               
Shell  plc, was  at one  time harbored  in Seward,  but is  being                                                               
transported to Asia  for additional retrofitting.   She said that                                                               
the Sikuliaq  is an Arctic-equipped  research vessel  operated by                                                               
the University of Alaska Fairbanks.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:20:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRYNES, in response to  the chair, said the icebreakers owned                                                               
by the U.S.  are operated by the U.S. Coast  Guard, which reports                                                               
to  the U.S.  Department of  Homeland Security.   In  response to                                                               
Representative Keller,  said he does  not know all  the locations                                                               
in which  the Arctic  Council has  met, but knows  it meets  on a                                                               
rotation schedule,  which began  in 1996,  with Canada  as chair,                                                               
then rotated to the U.S. in 1998.   He referred to page 3, [lines                                                               
18-20], which  notes that "following  the chairmanship  of Canada                                                               
beginning   in  May   2013,  the   United   States  will   assume                                                               
chairmanship of the Arctic council in May 2015".                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER  expressed  curiosity as  to  when  Alaska                                                               
would be chairing the Arctic Council.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:22:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON  questioned  the  effectiveness  of  the                                                               
resolution.   He referred to  language on page 2,  [lines 11-14],                                                               
which states that  the U.S. Coast Guard "does not  have a base on                                                               
or adjacent to the Arctic  Ocean, inhibiting the nation's ability                                                               
to respond to situations", and  then highlighted language on page                                                               
4, [lines 14-15],  which "urges the United States  to continue to                                                               
assert  its  political,  strategic, environmental,  and  economic                                                               
interests in the Arctic".  He  asked for the likelihood of a base                                                               
ever  existing in  Alaska.   He recalled  that former  U.S. Coast                                                               
Guard members  have indicated that  the Midwest U.S. has  not yet                                                               
recognized the  U.S. as an  Arctic nation; therefore,  because of                                                               
the prohibitive  costs of an  icebreaker, it  may be a  long time                                                               
before one is built.  He  further asked for the likelihood of SRJ                                                               
10 gaining traction in Congress.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRYNES expressed  the sponsor's hope that  the proposed joint                                                               
resolution  would have  a receptive  audience in  Congress.   The                                                               
Alaska  Congressional Delegation  has always  been supportive  of                                                               
increasing  the number  of icebreakers  in the  U.S. Coast  Guard                                                               
fleet, as  well as supporting  the construction of  Arctic posts.                                                               
In 2012,  Senator Begich  co-sponsored an  amendment to  the U.S.                                                               
Coast Guard Reauthorization Act, which  would prolong the life of                                                               
one of  the four aging icebreakers.   He offered his  belief that                                                               
measures such as  this one emphasize to the Lower  48 the reasons                                                               
icebreakers are important to the U.S.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:25:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  encouraged members  to become active  members in                                                               
the  Pacific  NorthWest  Economic  Region (PNWER),  which  has  a                                                               
subcommittee  called Arctic  Caucus,  which has  been focused  on                                                               
these issues.   She reported that PNWER comprises  Alaska and the                                                               
Northwest and  Yukon Territories of  Canada.  She  explained that                                                               
the caucus  provided the  momentum for  the Northern  Waters Task                                                               
Force  and ultimately  the Arctic  Policy Commission  that Alaska                                                               
has  formed.   She agreed  that  the U.S.  has federal  financial                                                               
issues; however,  if the concern  is never raised, it  will never                                                               
happen.   She stated that  with the Arctic Council's  presence in                                                               
the U.S.,  the state is  partnering with Canada to  emphasize the                                                               
North  American Arctic  to potentially  effectively leverage  the                                                               
Arctic presence.   She characterized  the involvement as  being a                                                               
"challenging  uphill  battle,"  which  [Alaska  and  Canada]  are                                                               
fighting together.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON  noted the resolution calls  for a member                                                               
of the State of Alaska to serve  on the Arctic Council.  He asked                                                               
whether SJR 10 is being "done  in cooperation" or is "knocking on                                                               
the door" to raise awareness.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL answered  it is the latter.  She  reported that a                                                               
northern  Canadian  First  Nations   woman  from  Nunavut  chairs                                                               
Canada's position on  the Arctic Council, and  she indicated that                                                               
the proposed  resolution asks  that an  Alaskan be  considered to                                                               
chair  [the  United  States'  position  on  the  council].    She                                                               
indicated  that Lt.  Governor Mead  Treadwell  is the  governor's                                                               
designee  as official  delegate from  Alaska to  speak on  Arctic                                                               
issues before the federal government.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:28:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HUGHES   recalled  reading  that   during  recent                                                               
chairmanship  of  the  Arctic Council  by  Norway,  Finland,  and                                                               
Sweden, focus has been on  environmental protection, and now that                                                               
Canada will be chairing, followed  by the U.S., the emphasis will                                                               
be on  North American issues.   She  said she was  delighted that                                                               
part of the emphasis will  be on resource development and perhaps                                                               
shipping.   She expressed an  interest in how the  emphasis would                                                               
change.   She further  asked whether  Western States  support the                                                               
Arctic, in  particular, for additional  icebreakers - due  to the                                                               
impact it will have on the Arctic shipping route.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL explained  that the  Arctic Council  has a  very                                                               
broad  emphasis  which   includes  environmental,  shipping,  and                                                               
resource development.  She related  that the Alaska Arctic Policy                                                               
Commission (AAPC)  is actually divided  into [policy  teams], and                                                               
she  heads  the  team  focused   on  [oil  and  gas  development,                                                               
resources,  and mining].   Consequently,  she has  been reviewing                                                               
other Arctic  nations in the council,  and she has found  each of                                                               
them  to have  a balanced  perspective  for each  of the  issues,                                                               
including  transportation,  development,  and environment.    She                                                               
turned to the  Western states and pointed out that  she is also a                                                               
member  of the  Energy Producing  States Coalition  (EPSC), whose                                                               
members  are predominately  Western states  that produce  energy.                                                               
She said she  has been trying to emphasize  the Arctic importance                                                               
to the  coalition.  She  encouraged members to make  their voices                                                               
known  to other  states as  they participate  in meetings  in the                                                               
Lower 48 and other countries.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:31:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT removed  her objection  to the  motion to                                                               
adopt  the proposed  House committee  substitute (HCS)  for CSSJR
10,  Version  28-LS0542/C,  Nauman,  3/22/13.    There  being  no                                                               
further objection, Version  C was before the committee  as a work                                                               
draft.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:31:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT moved to report  HCS CSSJR 10, Version 28-                                                               
LS0542/C,  Nauman,  3/22/13,  out of  committee  with  individual                                                               
recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:32:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote was  taken.   Representatives Gattis,  Hughes,                                                               
Isaacson,  Keller, Kreiss-Tomkins,  Millett,  and  Lynn voted  in                                                               
favor  of  reported  Version  C  for SJR  10  out  of  committee.                                                               
Therefore, HCS CSSJR 10(STA) was  reported out of the House State                                                               
Affairs Standing Committee by a vote of 7-0.                                                                                    

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
01 SJR 10 Ver. N.A.pdf HSTA 3/28/2013 8:00:00 AM
SJR 10
01a CS for SJR 10 Version C & Legal Memo.PDF HSTA 3/28/2013 8:00:00 AM
SJR 10
02 SJR 10 - Sponsor Statement 20130315.pdf HSTA 3/28/2013 8:00:00 AM
SJR 10
03 SJR 10 - Summary of Changes 20130319.pdf HSTA 3/28/2013 8:00:00 AM
SJR 10
04 SJR 10 - Responses to Sen. French questions in hearing.pdf HSTA 3/28/2013 8:00:00 AM
SJR 10
05 SJR 10 - Fiscal Note.pdf HSTA 3/28/2013 8:00:00 AM
SJR 10
06 SJR 10 - USCG Aquisition Directorate Polar Icebreaker.pdf HSTA 3/28/2013 8:00:00 AM
SJR 10
07 SJR 10 Cohen, Szaszdi, Dolbow. New Cold War (Heritage Foundation).pdf HSTA 3/28/2013 8:00:00 AM
SJR 10
08 SJR 10 MAJOR ICEBREAKERS Chart (Februrary 2013).pdf HSTA 3/28/2013 8:00:00 AM
SJR 10
09 SJR 10 Miller. Arctic, Polar Sea, USCG at Capitol (Juneau Empire 2-15-13).pdf HSTA 3/28/2013 8:00:00 AM
SJR 10
10 SJR 10 Ottawa Declaration (1996).pdf HSTA 3/28/2013 8:00:00 AM
SJR 10
18 CS for HB59 ver. Y.PDF HSTA 3/28/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 59
19 HB59 Changes Memo (ver. P to ver. Y).PDF HSTA 3/28/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 59